1 00:00:12,250 --> 00:00:09,130 yeah so anyone who is not familiar with 2 00:00:15,460 --> 00:00:12,260 our FG this RF G stands for research 3 00:00:19,269 --> 00:00:15,470 focus group and it has been in 4 00:00:22,810 --> 00:00:19,279 conjunction with AB grad con for five 5 00:00:26,470 --> 00:00:22,820 years now is that right anyway so this 6 00:00:29,019 --> 00:00:26,480 is an opportunity for participants at AB 7 00:00:33,210 --> 00:00:29,029 grade grad con to get an experience 8 00:00:36,670 --> 00:00:33,220 writing research grants so these are 9 00:00:40,410 --> 00:00:36,680 grant proposals in the style of NASA 10 00:00:45,550 --> 00:00:40,420 proposals and SF do e that kind of thing 11 00:00:48,460 --> 00:00:45,560 and its unique opportunity to you've 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:48,470 seen the diversity of our areas of 13 00:00:55,210 --> 00:00:50,930 research already at this conference and 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:00:55,220 in just a short weekend the RFG event is 15 00:01:03,100 --> 00:01:00,530 a friday through sunday morning students 16 00:01:06,850 --> 00:01:03,110 come in and write a full research 17 00:01:09,910 --> 00:01:06,860 proposal from the science to the budget 18 00:01:14,679 --> 00:01:09,920 to the timeline everything in just a 19 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:14,689 weekend and try to bring together and 20 00:01:19,029 --> 00:01:16,640 incorporate everyone's different 21 00:01:20,590 --> 00:01:19,039 backgrounds so it's perhaps a little 22 00:01:22,529 --> 00:01:20,600 different from what you might experience 23 00:01:27,389 --> 00:01:22,539 in the future but you still get that 24 00:01:32,190 --> 00:01:27,399 great first hand writing experience so 25 00:01:36,069 --> 00:01:32,200 with that I like to introduce the 26 00:01:39,069 --> 00:01:36,079 winning team from this year's rfg apart 27 00:01:42,660 --> 00:01:39,079 prasad sarah gillett and arshaum solari 28 00:01:51,519 --> 00:01:42,670 and they will talk about methane 29 00:01:55,449 --> 00:01:51,529 sequestration and recovery so I'm 30 00:01:57,819 --> 00:01:55,459 arshaum solari i'm here to talk about 31 00:02:01,199 --> 00:01:57,829 development of a solid-phase sovereign 32 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:01,209 material for methane recovery filter 33 00:02:12,430 --> 00:02:09,530 here with the Sergio and Harper shot so 34 00:02:15,250 --> 00:02:12,440 to motivate the talk I'm going to talk 35 00:02:19,620 --> 00:02:15,260 about global warming for few slides what 36 00:02:27,550 --> 00:02:25,260 surface temperature estimates from the 37 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:27,560 Intergovernmental Panel for climate 38 00:02:34,180 --> 00:02:30,410 change so the shaded regions are 39 00:02:38,050 --> 00:02:34,190 basically 11 star deviation from the 40 00:02:41,130 --> 00:02:38,060 mean and then the gray bars you see on 41 00:02:45,070 --> 00:02:41,140 the side are different scenarios that 42 00:02:47,820 --> 00:02:45,080 they can get predicted so this orange 43 00:02:53,220 --> 00:02:47,830 line is basically if we could freeze the 44 00:02:57,490 --> 00:02:53,230 greenhouse gas levels at the 2,000 level 45 00:03:00,070 --> 00:02:57,500 two thousand year 2000 level and these 46 00:03:04,300 --> 00:03:00,080 are the different projections from 47 00:03:07,390 --> 00:03:04,310 different you know groups and regardless 48 00:03:11,290 --> 00:03:07,400 of you know if you could end up here or 49 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:11,300 here the neither scenario is really 50 00:03:17,980 --> 00:03:15,290 present at consequence of this to make 51 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:17,990 it a little more understandable for 52 00:03:22,270 --> 00:03:19,970 somebody who doesn't know you know what 53 00:03:26,949 --> 00:03:22,280 at two or three degree change would mean 54 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:26,959 is the difference in sea level so this 55 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:30,050 is this this dashed line is year 2007 56 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:33,410 and you know the shaded region here is 57 00:03:38,530 --> 00:03:35,090 the different scenarios that you're 58 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:38,540 gonna see so the worst the best case 59 00:03:44,020 --> 00:03:40,970 scenario is 20 centimeters SI lo you 60 00:03:45,930 --> 00:03:44,030 know global sea-level rise and the worst 61 00:03:50,710 --> 00:03:45,940 case scenario is 50 centimeters I 62 00:03:53,110 --> 00:03:50,720 changed which you know is 0 you might 63 00:03:54,490 --> 00:03:53,120 agree it's very dangerous you know part 64 00:03:57,910 --> 00:03:54,500 of miami important manhattan will be 65 00:04:02,880 --> 00:03:57,920 underwater along with denise and many 66 00:04:06,790 --> 00:04:02,890 many many cities so this is the 67 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:06,800 composition of greenhouse gases most of 68 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:08,810 the carbon dioxide which gets a lot of 69 00:04:15,370 --> 00:04:12,410 attention appropriately so but there is 70 00:04:18,039 --> 00:04:15,380 this 14th person methane which is 71 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:18,049 important because methane is 25 times 72 00:04:23,380 --> 00:04:20,330 more potent as a greenhouse gas than 73 00:04:25,930 --> 00:04:23,390 carbon dioxide and the problem we're 74 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:25,940 having these days is that because of the 75 00:04:33,490 --> 00:04:30,080 global warming situation of you're in a 76 00:04:35,950 --> 00:04:33,500 lot of you know the natural gas industry 77 00:04:39,250 --> 00:04:35,960 and the general public prefer natural 78 00:04:41,710 --> 00:04:39,260 gas compared to cold because they think 79 00:04:44,290 --> 00:04:41,720 it's a clean air source of energy where 80 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:44,300 the probe where the problem happens is 81 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:48,110 that when you have a lot of activities 82 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:49,490 around natural gas there's a lot of 83 00:04:55,540 --> 00:04:52,910 leakage so and you know power plants and 84 00:04:58,330 --> 00:04:55,550 natural gas production there is you know 85 00:05:00,700 --> 00:04:58,340 between 12 to two percent leakage and 86 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:00,710 that two or three percent leakage x 25 x 87 00:05:08,110 --> 00:05:04,970 being more potent is a big problem so 88 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:08,120 here is a breakdown of verdi all that 89 00:05:16,659 --> 00:05:11,530 you know methane emission sources are 90 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:16,669 and the part that we are focusing on is 91 00:05:22,570 --> 00:05:18,850 the natural gas and petroleum systems 92 00:05:25,830 --> 00:05:22,580 there is a lot of capture mccann 93 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:25,840 mechanisms for you know landfills and 94 00:05:33,190 --> 00:05:28,610 agricultural resources but not much has 95 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:33,200 been done for petroleum sources so with 96 00:05:39,909 --> 00:05:36,410 that I will give it to Sarah to talk 97 00:05:41,230 --> 00:05:39,919 about the actual point so the basic 98 00:05:44,710 --> 00:05:41,240 overview of what we want to do here is 99 00:05:47,020 --> 00:05:44,720 have a solid phase filter that we can 100 00:05:48,430 --> 00:05:47,030 flow a stream of air over which is 101 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:48,440 probably methane-rich because we're 102 00:05:53,140 --> 00:05:51,290 targeting these leakage sources and have 103 00:05:54,730 --> 00:05:53,150 it selectively bind methane while so 104 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:54,740 passing through the other components of 105 00:05:57,700 --> 00:05:56,810 air so the requirements are a filter 106 00:05:59,170 --> 00:05:57,710 such as this is that you're going to 107 00:06:00,850 --> 00:05:59,180 need a strong binding and methane and 108 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:00,860 the challenge of that is on methane is a 109 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:02,330 non-polar molecule and so you're not 110 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:04,000 going to have very strong interactions 111 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:07,550 with this solid phase and so are our 112 00:06:12,130 --> 00:06:09,680 approach to maximize those interactions 113 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:12,140 have a strong bonding and methane is 114 00:06:19,210 --> 00:06:15,490 that we're going to employ non-polar 115 00:06:20,140 --> 00:06:19,220 species on this filter to sort of 116 00:06:21,850 --> 00:06:20,150 enhance the non polar nonpolar 117 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:21,860 interactions we're also going to 118 00:06:26,290 --> 00:06:23,810 incorporate some porosity in there to 119 00:06:29,740 --> 00:06:26,300 enhance the methane kind of sticking to 120 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:29,750 that service okay so the second 121 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:31,850 requirement is that we want to be able 122 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:33,650 to have a fast flow of air through this 123 00:06:37,540 --> 00:06:35,690 filter so in order to do that we're 124 00:06:38,860 --> 00:06:37,550 gonna have to have a high selectivity of 125 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:38,870 it binding methane versus the other 126 00:06:43,180 --> 00:06:40,850 components of the gas in order to do 127 00:06:46,180 --> 00:06:43,190 that we're going to target specific poor 128 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:46,190 spacing of this solid solvent material 129 00:06:48,530 --> 00:06:47,280 and the Reese 130 00:06:51,710 --> 00:06:48,540 for that is that there's been studies 131 00:06:54,590 --> 00:06:51,720 that have shown that if you that if you 132 00:06:55,580 --> 00:06:54,600 take to methane molecules and you bring 133 00:06:58,670 --> 00:06:55,590 them together there's a certain point 134 00:07:00,379 --> 00:06:58,680 where they have a minimum of energy the 135 00:07:02,300 --> 00:07:00,389 distance between them and so if you if 136 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:02,310 you have pores that are spaced right 137 00:07:05,540 --> 00:07:03,600 around that minimum of energy which is 138 00:07:08,570 --> 00:07:05,550 right around 4.2 angstroms then you're 139 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:08,580 going to be able to maximize the binding 140 00:07:13,670 --> 00:07:12,000 of methane versus and to or co2 and the 141 00:07:15,170 --> 00:07:13,680 third component of or the third 142 00:07:17,180 --> 00:07:15,180 requirement for this kind of filter is 143 00:07:20,690 --> 00:07:17,190 that we want it to be reversibly vining 144 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:20,700 methane so not only do we want mething 145 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:22,110 to attach but we want to controllably 146 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:23,730 then be able to release it so we can 147 00:07:29,330 --> 00:07:26,930 recover this methane as a usable fuel 148 00:07:30,980 --> 00:07:29,340 and for that we're going to look at 149 00:07:36,620 --> 00:07:30,990 things like changing the temperature and 150 00:07:39,110 --> 00:07:36,630 the pressure of the the filters so this 151 00:07:40,969 --> 00:07:39,120 is kind of a very general schematic of 152 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:40,979 what this kind of filter would look like 153 00:07:47,210 --> 00:07:45,330 so you'd have an input of air where the 154 00:07:49,670 --> 00:07:47,220 methane is sorb is I desorbed onto the 155 00:07:51,290 --> 00:07:49,680 filter and the rest of the air flows out 156 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:51,300 and then we would change the conditions 157 00:07:54,740 --> 00:07:53,250 of temperature pressure and the methane 158 00:07:56,870 --> 00:07:54,750 would release into a second output where 159 00:08:00,860 --> 00:07:56,880 we could store it or it could be stored 160 00:08:04,250 --> 00:08:00,870 and then transported and we have three 161 00:08:06,290 --> 00:08:04,260 approach three components approach the 162 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:06,300 first is investigating promising sort of 163 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:07,410 material so this would be kind of the 164 00:08:11,779 --> 00:08:09,330 wet chemistry part of this project the 165 00:08:13,250 --> 00:08:11,789 second is more on the theoretical side 166 00:08:16,460 --> 00:08:13,260 of things we look at the thermodynamics 167 00:08:17,930 --> 00:08:16,470 binding and air flow and the third is on 168 00:08:20,990 --> 00:08:17,940 them I cannot find gineering side of 169 00:08:22,670 --> 00:08:21,000 things actually starting to look at what 170 00:08:27,770 --> 00:08:22,680 goes into building a prototype for this 171 00:08:30,710 --> 00:08:27,780 build um so all the purpose of having 172 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:30,720 approach like this is threefold is first 173 00:08:33,770 --> 00:08:32,250 of all the three of us are coming from 174 00:08:34,909 --> 00:08:33,780 very different backgrounds so each of 175 00:08:37,070 --> 00:08:34,919 these places one of our swings I'm 176 00:08:41,089 --> 00:08:37,080 materials chemists a pirate is a 177 00:08:42,790 --> 00:08:41,099 chemical ta thermodynamics asst and RM 178 00:08:44,810 --> 00:08:42,800 is in the kenaf engineer so our 179 00:08:48,350 --> 00:08:44,820 interests and our expertise fit right 180 00:08:50,930 --> 00:08:48,360 into these three different models the 181 00:08:51,980 --> 00:08:50,940 second advantage of this is that this is 182 00:08:53,810 --> 00:08:51,990 something that hasn't really been 183 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:53,820 approached before methane filters isn't 184 00:08:57,230 --> 00:08:55,770 something that's really out there and so 185 00:08:58,699 --> 00:08:57,240 we're starting from first principles and 186 00:09:00,590 --> 00:08:58,709 we want to attack it from all different 187 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:00,600 sides so we're not saying that we're 188 00:09:02,490 --> 00:09:00,970 going to be 189 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:02,500 to produce a commercial product by the 190 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:04,930 end of this proposal but we want to be 191 00:09:09,530 --> 00:09:06,689 able to lay a good foundation not only 192 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:09,540 on the chemistry but also in the 193 00:09:13,290 --> 00:09:11,889 thermodynamics the modeling as well as 194 00:09:15,420 --> 00:09:13,300 you know started thinking about the 195 00:09:16,740 --> 00:09:15,430 engineering of thing so the the 196 00:09:18,809 --> 00:09:16,750 thermodynamics will help us then 197 00:09:21,090 --> 00:09:18,819 identify more promising chemical 198 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:21,100 materials starting to look at the 199 00:09:25,079 --> 00:09:22,720 engineering will then help inform our 200 00:09:27,059 --> 00:09:25,089 our modeling systems and as we look at 201 00:09:29,699 --> 00:09:27,069 the engineering will be able to see what 202 00:09:32,429 --> 00:09:29,709 kind of constraints there are for 203 00:09:34,110 --> 00:09:32,439 developing material so eliminate any 204 00:09:38,369 --> 00:09:34,120 obstacles that might show up later on 205 00:09:40,170 --> 00:09:38,379 down the road and the way we're going to 206 00:09:41,369 --> 00:09:40,180 start going about identifying a serpent 207 00:09:42,929 --> 00:09:41,379 material like chemistry part of this 208 00:09:46,230 --> 00:09:42,939 we're going to start with the principles 209 00:09:47,550 --> 00:09:46,240 of gas chromatography so gas 210 00:09:50,129 --> 00:09:47,560 chromatography you're not familiar with 211 00:09:52,650 --> 00:09:50,139 it is a separation technique the way it 212 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:52,660 works is you input your sample using a 213 00:09:56,119 --> 00:09:54,610 carrier gas into this column which is 214 00:09:58,769 --> 00:09:56,129 packed with a solid phase material 215 00:10:01,170 --> 00:09:58,779 something like this polymer here which 216 00:10:04,910 --> 00:10:01,180 has a silicon oxygen psylocke st. 217 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:04,920 backbone and then these long and octal 218 00:10:09,780 --> 00:10:07,809 hydrophobic groups coming out of it and 219 00:10:13,079 --> 00:10:09,790 so your sample as it goes through the 220 00:10:14,759 --> 00:10:13,089 column will be in one of two phases will 221 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:14,769 either be absorbed to the solid material 222 00:10:18,420 --> 00:10:16,240 or I'll begin the carrier gas which is 223 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:18,430 flowing through the column in the amount 224 00:10:22,259 --> 00:10:20,290 of time that it spends adsorbed versus 225 00:10:25,549 --> 00:10:22,269 in the carrier gas that will determine 226 00:10:27,780 --> 00:10:25,559 the retention time of your molecule and 227 00:10:29,069 --> 00:10:27,790 that's how you can get separations of 228 00:10:31,079 --> 00:10:29,079 different molecules with different 229 00:10:32,189 --> 00:10:31,089 interactions with the absorbing material 230 00:10:34,110 --> 00:10:32,199 so what we want to do is take this 231 00:10:38,670 --> 00:10:34,120 principle and then just really enhance 232 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:38,680 the adsorbing part of this the ads 233 00:10:41,999 --> 00:10:40,930 orbing phase of the samples going 234 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:42,009 through the column and so we're really 235 00:10:48,210 --> 00:10:43,420 going to we're going to play around with 236 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:48,220 the we're really going to play around 237 00:10:51,509 --> 00:10:50,050 with the groups that are coming off of 238 00:10:53,970 --> 00:10:51,519 the backbone and try and see if we can 239 00:10:55,829 --> 00:10:53,980 enhance the interactions of the methane 240 00:10:56,819 --> 00:10:55,839 molecules with those groups on the other 241 00:10:58,230 --> 00:10:56,829 thing we're going to look at as I 242 00:10:59,519 --> 00:10:58,240 mentioned this poor spacing and the way 243 00:11:02,759 --> 00:10:59,529 that you can do that is by playing 244 00:11:05,189 --> 00:11:02,769 around with the the branching the 245 00:11:08,910 --> 00:11:05,199 cross-linking of those polymers so 246 00:11:10,499 --> 00:11:08,920 studies have shown that the amount of 247 00:11:13,230 --> 00:11:10,509 cross-linking that you do will change 248 00:11:14,430 --> 00:11:13,240 your pore size and you there's been some 249 00:11:17,130 --> 00:11:14,440 body of research done 250 00:11:18,510 --> 00:11:17,140 hydrogen storage which they've shown you 251 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:18,520 know with cross-linked polymers you can 252 00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:22,210 store hydrogen and the forces that's 253 00:11:25,980 --> 00:11:23,830 kind of the chemistry side of things and 254 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:25,990 I will tell you about the thermodynamics 255 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:31,750 and I have 23 seconds left so overall up 256 00:11:36,810 --> 00:11:34,930 we want to make a device which is 257 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:36,820 thermodynamically feasible which means 258 00:11:41,130 --> 00:11:38,170 that the overall Gibbs free energy 259 00:11:44,670 --> 00:11:41,140 change of the process has to be negative 260 00:11:46,950 --> 00:11:44,680 because we want to have the system do 261 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:46,960 some useful work and not require useful 262 00:11:52,430 --> 00:11:50,650 work and the thermodynamics of co2 263 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:52,440 capture has been studied extensively 264 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:56,770 this is from and the way you study this 265 00:12:00,810 --> 00:11:58,810 is by basically studying the Gibbs 266 00:12:02,850 --> 00:12:00,820 energy demands and gives any supplies on 267 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:02,860 the left we have the Gibbs energy demand 268 00:12:09,270 --> 00:12:06,490 for co2 capture as you might note the 269 00:12:11,250 --> 00:12:09,280 numbers are positive and the Gibbs 270 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:11,260 energy supply basically came from 271 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:14,170 hydration of course we are working with 272 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:17,290 methane sort of and not carbon dioxide 273 00:12:22,590 --> 00:12:19,930 so our while our gifts energy demands 274 00:12:26,430 --> 00:12:22,600 would be same our supply has to be 275 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:26,440 different and that basically comes from 276 00:12:31,470 --> 00:12:28,210 the change in temperatures and pressure 277 00:12:35,700 --> 00:12:31,480 or surface thermodynamics of helium 278 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:35,710 binding ah so to sum it up we need to 279 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:38,710 maximize methane capture minimize 280 00:12:43,260 --> 00:12:41,110 methane consumption so I power 281 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:43,270 consumption so that we have a negative 282 00:12:53,070 --> 00:12:45,730 carbon footprint which is actually the 283 00:12:54,510 --> 00:12:53,080 positive and set up the right in flow 284 00:12:57,450 --> 00:12:54,520 with the right amount of methane 285 00:12:59,730 --> 00:12:57,460 concentration and a right temperature 286 00:13:02,910 --> 00:12:59,740 humidity pressure to maximize our 287 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:02,920 efficiency and test for greenhouse cash 288 00:13:10,350 --> 00:13:06,490 balance between the operation side so we 289 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:10,360 have a very ambitious project over here 290 00:13:15,270 --> 00:13:13,450 and so they're going to be challenges on 291 00:13:18,030 --> 00:13:15,280 the way but we've tried to cover most 292 00:13:20,370 --> 00:13:18,040 paces and but it's something that needs 293 00:13:23,100 --> 00:13:20,380 to be done in this time of these times 294 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:23,110 of anthropogenic climate change and 295 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:26,050 rewards a huge so we look forward to 296 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:35,790 we can take a question or two if anybody 297 00:13:43,110 --> 00:13:37,690 has a question about a very ambitious 298 00:13:46,020 --> 00:13:43,120 proposal I think everybody may be really